So Where on earth do you think the Antichrist will rise?

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Matthew 24:23-27 NIV Mattew 24:23-27 

I added verse 26 and verse 27 into this expository because I felt without 26 & 27 some of the meaning is lost.  Let us break bread and read scripture, here it is:At that time if anyone says to you, ‘ Look, here is the Christ!’ or, ‘There he is!’ do not believe it. 24For false Christs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and miracles to deceive even the elect—if that were possible. 25See, I have told you ahead of time.  26“So if anyone tells you, ‘There he is, out in the desert,’ do not go out; or, ‘Here he is, in the inner rooms,’ do not believe it.For as lightning that comes from the east is visible even in the west, so will be the coming of the Son of Man.
       Christ will not come as a humble servant, as a man this time.  Christ is coming as a conquering king, as Lightening from one end of the sky to the other, Luke 17:24, Matthew 24:27.  This day is also called the Day of the Lord.  Verse 25 says Christ is warning us of something very special, very prophetic.  Christ says in verse 26 that if anyone tells you there he is out in the desert do not go out or here he is in the inner rooms do not believe it.  I believe this tells us and according to what we see now in history that the antichrist will rise up through Islam in the desert, the vast desert of the middle east.  The same inner room says this same false Christ will be in the inner rooms.  I have to study this more but I think it means the holy of holies at the temple which hasn’t been rebuilt yet.

Now here’s the amazing part.  Shiite Islam  believes the 12th Mahdi is their coming Messiah and their prophecies of him are a direct mirror image of what the Christian prophecies teach are fulfillment of the Antichrist.  Christianity teaches the Antichrist will rule the earth forcing all men to submit and worship his image, Shia Islam teaches this 12th Mhadi will force the world to submit to Islam ushering in one religion in the world, ruling the world as a dictator, beheading Christians and Jews with his holy Mhadi armies.  All of Islam believes this 12th Mhadi (antichrist) will appear with a man calling himself Jesus Christ returned to earth again having descended as a man.  According to their own prophecies this False Jesus will deny he ever said he was the Son and that the Christian Bible became corrupted and that God sent him back to earth to correct these mistakes, that God has no begotten Son.  The Shiite believe this 12th Mhadi is actually their messiah that will usher in peace and prosperity forever and ever, after he kills all christians and jews that will not convert to the true christianity.  This man that calls himself Jesus Christ will claim to have a new holy book that will be more correct than all the holy books and will have the correct version and corrections saying that Jesus Christ is not the Son of God, not begotten of God, for God has no son.  Basicly the same things already written on the Dome of the Rock.  Now here’s the tricky part so listen closely.  Their prophecies also state that this man, calls himself Jesus Christ, will be offered by the 12th Mahdi the opportunity to pray for the group but he will bow and submit himself to the 12th Mahdi saying the 12th Mahdi is more Godly, More holy and the 12th Mahdi should pray for them all.

So here’s the tricky part.  The antichrist will be the 12 Mahdi.  The false prophet will be the man that falsely calls himself Jesus Christ, descended as a man.

The point being that the antichrist and false prophets appear to be coming from the desert.

So here is my question for others.  Where do you believe the antichrist is coming from?  The book of revelation says the antichrist beheads Christians and Jews coming from a part of the world that still has real kings just east of the great Euphrates River.

                                    Revelation 16:12-14 NIV
12 The sixth angel poured out his bowl on the great river Euphrates, and its water was dried up to prepare the way for the kings of the East.  13 Then I saw three evil spirits that looked like frogs; they came out of the mouth of the dragon, out of the mouth of the beast and out of the mouth of the false prophet.  14 They are spirits of demons performing miraculous signs, and they go out to the kings of the whole world, to gather them for the battle on the great day of God Almighty.     Antichrist Coming from East of Euphrates river.These Antichrist kingdoms are coming from the great desert East of the great Euphrates river.  The Euphrates river runs through Iraq, Syria and Turkey as shown and the map I drew it on up above.   
        Islam has been beheading Christians and Jews for fifty years now. Tell me what you believe without posting someone’s sermon.  I do not want to see any quotes except the new testament.  For those Catholic church haters do not post anything about the pope or catholic church or I will just delete it.  No hate, only real world prophetic interpretations.  Tell me where you think and back it up with scripture!
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Antichrist kingdoms not coming from European Union

                 

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Antichrist Kingdoms Not Coming From
 The European Union but From Desert
Nor are they coming from the Pope, Rome or America. The only place with kings on earth today that hate Jews and Christians and still beheads people (Revelation 20:4) is in the middle east.The Antichrist kingdoms will come from the middle east desert ( Revelation 17:3), Their authority will be given by God for one hour, Revelation 17:12(43.66 years at 1000 years = a day prophetic timetable, after militant Islam overthrew Iran also called Persia by the world until 1938 according to the CIA book of facts), these 43.66 years appear to have started when the new radical Persians overthrew the Shah of Iran ousting him in the late seventies leading to the global spread of radical Islam. For the multitudes slain by the Antichrist kingdoms, beheaded by sword during tribulation, were cleansed with their own and lambs blood (martyrdom) and given white robes,(Revelation 7:14, 20:4), by not denying Jesus is the Christ, the begotten son of God the Father. And what’s up with those images that have been on the dome of the rock since it was built? Click this link to see.IranUSSRBritain[1]
http://www.angelfire.com/journal2/dome_images/ Also read the inscriptions translated on the inside and the outside of the Dome of The Rock.
http://www.rippin.ca/history455/dome.htm
This is where I believe the antichrist is coming from, the middle east desert.  This is also my scripture that backs it from the new testament.  Where do you believe the Antichrist and false prophet are coming from?  What is your scripture to support what you believe?  Please do not post long drawn out sermons.  Please give supporting evidence from the bible.

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I will get back to you…I have to look up the scripture.
Posted 1/10/2007 11:58 PM by LifeNeedsProtection Xanga True Member - delete - block user - fix language - recommend - reply

I enjoyed that post and I agree that there is a Anti-Christ coming however, there are still many antichrist already in this world “The world and its desires pass away, but the man who does the will of God lives forever.  Dear children, this is the last hour; and as you have heard that the antichrist is coming, even now many antichrists have come. This is how we know it is the last hour. They went out from us, but they did not really belong to us. For if they had belonged to us, they would have remained with us; but their going showed that none of them belonged to us” (1 John 2:17-19 (New International Version). There are many other scriptures also talking about this topic just to name a few (1 John 2:22, 1 John 4:3, 2 John 1:7) Also, who did God use to write the book of Rev. Also, I wont talk about the Chatholic Church but I will say what did all the refomers believe? I am not a hater my whole family is Catholic I am 2nd Generation Pentacostal. thank you and God Bless.
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I believe no one will know, because God has said men will try to figure out the day he will come, and won’t find out till that day.
I believe the same for the antichrist.
You can only know the warning signs.<3 Sara
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There is the end all be all capital A Anti-Christ the final bad guy. However, there is also in scripture the lower smaller a anti-christ, it also says many have come. Therefore saying that yes there will be a final evil man who will be the Anti-Christ however, we are living in a world filled with anti-christ anyone who teaches false doctrine is a form of the anti-christ. Anyone who leads people from Jesus Christ as THE ONLY way to heaven is a form of the anti-christ. Also, i will send you a private message about the catholic church.
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Some good comments from all of you.  As we get closer to the Antichrist and the revealing of him there are many questions to ponder.  For instance the bible says in scripture he decieves the world, except the elect.  One thing to consider is will he be who the world expects him to be or will he be someone else altogether, someone the christian leaders never expected, from a place on earth never expected.  RYC Jacob-you made a good point when you mentioned what did the reformers think, and I think I know where your leading to on this question, and it is a good question.  So here is another question on truth.  Do we regard others outside of the bible, other’s opinions when it is not the word of God.  These are men, and sometimes women, just like us that have defects and problems and issues and prejudaces.  I’ll give you an example and maybe you can understand where I am coming from.

Martin Luther, the greatest and first reformmer of them all, God used, at a time when the church, Roman Catholic Church, God’s chosen church at that time, Holy roman Empire, was not reading the whole bible, was not teaching all of the bible and was teaching some things that Martin Luther considered nonscriptural, things like te selling of indulgences and other things designed to keep people under bondages and to raise more funds for the church.  So the reformation began with Martin Luther when he nailed on the Wurzburg castle university door his 99 problems with the Holy Roman Empire catholic Church.  And so began all the social upheavals and reformation all over Europe.  And we know this was the beginning of hundreds of years of inchurch bickering between the new protestors, the protestants, first being Lutherans, and the Catholics.  So the Catholic church counted Luther a wolf in sheeps clothing, a false prophet, an antichrist wanting to burn him at the stake, but never catching him but catching many other reformers and burning them at the stakes, leadind to many, many ,many martyres all in the search for God’s truth.

He was a great man used by God this Martin Luther.  But there are a lot of things in his writings people do not know.  Towards the end of Martin Luther’s life he had written many really bad antisemetic writings.  He was a jew hater.  I never believed this until I read his writings myself.  The point being, he was a man, a mighty man used by God, but not an apostle, not one of the original eleven, not selected by Jesus Christ in person in the desert like Paul was, when blinded.  So this man was on the one hand used to correct the church when darkeness was a great cloud covering everybody, but , history teaches, was what they called an antisemite, a jew hater.

So many of the reformers were being called false prophets, antichrists, and they thought this Holy Roman catholic Empire that was trying to burn them at the stake was also the seeds of a coming future false prophet or antichrist.

And lots of hurts and divisions and sectarianism started with these hundreds of years of wars, Catholic kings in charge, burning protestants at the stake, Protestant kings in charge, burning catholics at the stake, all leading to bitterness and hate the body of christ has never over come since then.

So could the reformers in all this termoil, all these clouds of hate, without history behind them have an accurate view of where the antichrist and false prophet kingdoms would come from?  Another question.  Would people living five to six hundred years before the antichrist came have the same accurate view as someone would three or four years befor the antichrist came?

And RYC Sara I  believe no one will know until right before he is revealed.  The scriptures do seem to support this view.

Posted 1/11/2007 7:03 PM by RobertLeeRE - delete - fix language - recommend - reply

I tell you the truth and I will tell you this one time.. The Bible says he will decive EVEN the every elect if possible will be decieved you are incorrectly interperting the scripture as you are using it out of contexts. Its correct context says; “At that time if anyone says to you, ‘Look, here is the Christ!’ or, ‘There he is!’ do not believe it. For false Christs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and miracles to deceive even the elect—if that were possible. See, I have told you ahead of time” (Matthew 24:23-25 (New International Version)

For this very reason we MUST have Pastor over churches as the Bible tells us not to limit what people learn but teach them SOUND doctrine. Also, as I have pointed out in my private message to you and on my website. The Catholic Church Leadership is a form of the anti-christ. I do not believe it was ever used by God, as it was created by a evil man for power. I believe just like in the Old Testament God keep people for himself. Just like he did in the day of Elisha. However, thats why I say even on my website about the missionarys that went out from the Catholic Church that they are in the hands of God. ”Jehu will put to death any who escape the sword of Hazael, and Elisha will put to death any who escape the sword of Jehu. Yet I reserve seven thousand in Israel—all whose knees have not bowed down to Baal and all whose mouths have not kissed him’ So Elijah went from there and found Elisha son of Shaphat. He was plowing with twelve yoke of oxen, and he himself was driving the twelfth pair. Elijah went up to him and threw his cloak around him” (1 Kings 19:17-19 (New International Version).

I believe that God keep for himself a group that did now bow down to the Pope nor did they kiss his ring. I do regard what men of God say, however, I also read and put the word of God against what they say. I have Martin Luthers reasons for leaving the Church on my website. I believe if God set people aside for himself in the past then his can do it again. Also, if you read the Old Testament you will see this happen many times. I believe that God held the leadership accountiable for the lies and false teachings that the Catholic Church has pass or attempted to pass for truth. If it was not for Martin Luther you would not even have a Bible to read. Because the Catholic Church said that normal people can not understand the Bible which is a LIE FROM HELL.. All men with the Holy Spirit can fully understand the Bible.

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23At that time if anyone says to you, ‘Look, here is the Christ!’ or, ‘There he is!’ do not believe it. 24For false Christs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and miracles to deceive even the elect—if that were possible. 25See, I have told you ahead of time.

26″So if anyone tells you, ‘There he is, out in the desert,’ do not go out; or, ‘Here he is, in the inner rooms,’ do not believe it. 27For as lightning that comes from the east is visible even in the west, so will be the coming of the Son of Man.

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Above are the passages we are studying.  It says in verse 26″So if anyone tells you, “There he is, out in the desert,’ do not go out; or, “Here he is, in the inner rooms, ‘ do not believe it.

Now Jacob, you accused me of taking scripture out of of context, I do not believe I have, I am getting the feeling your getting upset or something.  I had no intention of getting you upset.  I have my views you have yours.  This I have no problem with.  We do not have to agree on everything.  I am just curious why you think I took it out of context, the passage above.

So what do you think Christ meant when he said that?

Posted 1/11/2007 8:39 PM by RobertLeeRE - delete - fix language - recommend - reply

nooo thats not what i’m talking about he could very well come from the desert I have no clue but I just worry about the word of God. I was just talking about what you said about the elect not being decived but the Bible tells us that they will be if possible which implys that some will fall away if they do not stay in the word of God.
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Ohhh yes, thank you for pointing that out.  I did say that, not on purpose though.  You are right it does not say that.  It says:

“to decieve even the elect–if that were possible.”

It was a freudian slip for me–because I do not believe it is possible to decieve the elect.

This is an interesting study though.  By Christ saying this it appears that the way the Antichrist will attempt to lead astray the elect, if that were possible.  This statement kind of insinuates something.  It insinuates seems to insinuate that the Antichrist will protray himself as a leader of the elect for how can you even “possibly” decieve the “elect” unless you protray yourself as a spiritual leader of the “elect.”  Just a thought….

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I am a prolific writer and interpreter of biblical prophecy for today's generations of Christians. I also am a witness of God's soon coming judgment of the city of man, the best man could build, Babylon the Great, now known to be America, that will fall in one day, one hour as breathed through the Evangelist Apostle John, clearly described Revelation 18:1-24. I also am witness to the Beast rising in the Middle East known as Islam, whom the Antichrist will rise through, as a Beast Man, known as the 12th Mahdi, will usher in uncontrolled world nuclear proliferation as clearly described by the prophet Joel 2:1-11, breathed through John the Apostle in Revelation 9:13-21, but one of the three unholy trinity kings Beasts, two of which are men, that emerge just east of the Euphrates River, where Islam rules, also where the four Fallen Angels were released that were bound at this same Euphrates River, Revelation 9:13-21, whom were responsible for the plagues of fire, smoke and sulfur that kills 1/3rd of mankind. We witnesses that support this ministry, drinking at this trough, are not prophets, but witnesses pointing to God's truth in the love letter he wrote for all mankind to see.

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