To Tithe or not to Tithe
July 7, 2018 by
the sermon joke
There was an 80 year old woman getting married for the 4th time
As reported in the news…An 80 year-old woman was recently married to her 4th husband. A reporter questioned the occupation of her newly acquired husband. She replied that he owned a funeral home. Curious about the other husbands, the reporter also asked about their occupations. The woman paused for a while and stated that her first husband was a banker. The second one she was madly in love with and he was a circus master. The third one was a minister. Puzzled by her answers, he replied, “None of these people have anything in common! Why did you marry these?” She stated that she married number one for the money, two for the show, three to get ready, and four to go.Benediction
Dear heavenly Father who gave his only begotten Son Jesus Christ to save us from ourselves when we do not deserve it. Intercede for us Lord, your Father has shown mercy upon our souls and even then you still sent the Holy Teacher Spirit to awaken those that had walked with you, listened to you… sitting at your feet. You fed the 5,000 so they would not have to leave being at your feet, adoring you, listening to consider every word you spoke. We cry out Lord asking, begging and pleading that you create in us a clean heart, a sound heart, a heart that is soft that you may mold it, knead it, a heart pumping with life and not of dry brittle stone. May we become witnesses for your truth Lord, witnesses that never walked with you Lord, witnesses rejecting the words of men instead of children rejecting the words you breathed through your prophets. May you now breath through your witnesses Lord the truth of the scriptures without men’s words, showing us the failure of our ways, waking us up, strengthening us that we will repeatedly refuse to follow the false prophets that teach the scripture to say something other then what is there, something other then your words Lord. May all scriptures we read be revealed that we may become witnesses to truth Lord Jesus Christ, Amen.
To Tithe or Not to Tithe
First off people take a deep breath before you investigate this truth I teach. The act of tithes is not in any way related to donating. We are not talking about whether or not we should support our local church or Preacher. Of course we should always pay for the services we receive. Anybody that teaches the word of God to you deserves to receive the appropriate compensation related to the blessings you received no ifs ans or buts. But this is important and must be addressed by the body of Christ. It has been ignored far too many centuries and We are talking about Mosaic law and whether calling your offerings tithes or following the act of tithes as a principal of holiness in which the person following these laws would expect preferential treatment from God, or rewards or return a 100 fold. So here are some basic questions I wish everyone to ponder…
Here is an article written by a friend of mine on tithing. What are your thoughts on tithing? Does the bible support it? Or against it? What scriptures do you give that support what you believe?
You can go to his site here: He no longer blogs on Xanga and closed his site. We all miss him a lot. He had some pretty good teaching but this is one area I believe he was wrong and needed more spiritual maturity. Why godly men will not discuss this issue in a public forum, I do not know.
Tithes
First tithes are completely biblical (Numbers 18:27-29, Malachi 3:7-9). We must pay tithes in order to keep the lights on in our local churches, and to make sure the Pastors of our Church have the ability to devote themselves to study. If you want to go to College do you not pay whatever it cost in order to learn? If you want to learn Martial Arts do you know pay a teacher? If this applies to those who are lost and dieing this BIBLICAL truth must be applied to the Christian. You say but I have no money, as I am in the same boat then the bible tells us to bring our special gifts and give them to the lord (Deuteronomy 12:10-12). Granted when I do have money I tend to give it to the Church, however I do not do this for the Church I do this unto God.
We can see this also in work in the NT, (Matthew 6:2-4) many people may attempt to say yes but the church is not needy. However does the church not help those who are in need both spiritual and physically? Therefore, when you give to the Church you are helping those that are in need you are supporting missionaries you are supporting your local congregation.
As far as answering the rest of your questions I need examples. I do not believe all Christian Organizations are bad. I do however, believe that many of them are confused and need to be redirected. However, there are many that are bad as they say that homosexuality is ok and they say that we no longer need to stay separate from the Catholic Church which preaches something other then the Bible. I do believe that many organizations have taken the Bible out of its proper place. However, not all have Christian Organizations have done this.
Here’s my response to his article and why I believe the bible does not support tithing.
Tithes Are One of the 613 Mosaic Laws Christ and Paul Preached Against
Mosaic law is from the old covenant that we are not under according to the greatest Apostle Paul. I say the greatest because 2/3rds of the entire New Testament was breathed by God through him.The word tithing is not even mentioned in the New Testament as something we should follow or do.
The only time Christ mentioned tithes was in a negative tone commending only the person that did not tithe but gave in her poverty a copper coin followed by Pharisees and Sadducee s that did tithe. Christ said she gave more then them in her poverty. He had a prime time to teach the act of tithes and the common 100 fold return all Preachers preach yet Christ has only negative things to say about the ones following the code.
The Apostle Paul never mentioned we were to tithe and in fact claimed the entire Mosaic Code was nailed to the cross by Jesus himself, Colossians 2:13-15. In his many letters he used examples of mosaic law and regulations stating if we follow even one law we placed ourselves under the entire code and had to follow the entire code which was impossible.
Mark 12:41-44; Luke 21:1-4. Christ had a perfect opportunity to teach on tithing yet he never even mentioned the law because we, according to the Apostle Paul’s doctrine which is greater then any denominational doctrine including Baptist, Methodist, Pentecostal, Assemblies of God, church of God, Charismatic, Nondenominational, Jehovah Witness, Mormon and any other followers of any laws in the Old Testament. The Apostle Paul’s church dogma trumps all Christian religions and they cannot ignore Paul’s words. Nor can they ignore members authority which is given by God through the Holy Spirit to the bible and to you. They have to teach the same words as Paul or be pestered on and on by the witnesses to truth of the gospel taught by Paul through the Pauline Epistles which is a greater authority then them.
The fact of the matter is Christ’s greatest struggles were with the “Godly Law followers” of the mosaic law system including the mosaic law of tithing. Also these law followers were constantly accusing Christ of breaking the laws like healing people on the Sabbath and doing things they were not supposed to be doing on the Sabbath. Christ was also accused of eating with unclean people and not performing hand-washing rituals before eating. Christ constantly challenged this mosaic law system not by breaking them but by following God’s original intention of these laws.
Paul states in Galatians chapter 3:10 if you follow any of the laws of the mosaic law system, tithing included, you place yourself back under the law and become cursed unless you follow all 613 laws of the Old Testament, Old Covenant. In other words you become a hypocrite incapable of choosing which laws to follow and which not.So my questions to you lawfollowing tithers is this; When was the last grain offering you did? Burnt offering? Fellowship Offering? Guilt Offering? Sin Offering? When was the last time you celebrated the Feast of Tabernacles living and dwelling in a booth for a week? And you women–Did you have a priest purify you after you gave birth to your children? How about all the food you eat. is it Kosher and has it been blessed by a Rabbi? Do you like your meat juicy? Because blood is forbidden according to mosaic law, not to be eaten. How about Sabbath. Who’s going to church on Sunday? Your breaking Sabbath law. Have any of you spoke bad things or cursed your mother and father anytime in your life? You are to be put to death according to mosaic law.
Now let us see what the greatest apostle ever in the New Covenant stated about mosaic law.
Galatians 3:3-5 Are you so foolish! After beginning with the Spirit, are you now trying to obtain your goal by human effort? Have you suffered so much for nothing-if it really was for nothing? Does God give you his Spirit and work miracles among you because you observe the law, or because you believe what you heard?
In fact if you will just open your bibles and read the whole book of Galatians you will find that Paul repeats this over and over and over in the whole book. This is only five pages people, please read it and follow what God says. Don’t you think this is better then to be following some denomination with a group of blind sheep?
1st Corinthians chapter 9 Paul states in this whole chapter how he deserves support but never mentions the word tithing because tithing is mosaic law. The teaching is that the giving is between God and the giver not the pastor and the giver.
1st Corinthians 4:16 Paul urges all that teach and pastor to imitate him. This includes preaching the same things Paul did. He never preached tithing because tithing is the mosaic law system and is the Old Covenant, we curse ourselves if we follow the law of tithing.
Romans 2:25 Circumcision has value if you observe the law, but if you break the law, it is though you had not been circumcised.
Romans 1:17 All righteousness is by faith from 1st to last, not from following any mosaic law.
Ephesians 2:15 by abolishing in his flesh the law, [mosaic law including tithing], with it’s commandments and regulations. His purpose was to create in himself one new man, [New Covenant], out of the two, thus making peace, and in this one body to reconcile both of them to God through the cross, by which he put to death their hostility.
God-followers who follow mosaic law are dogs, men who do evil and mutilators of the flesh, put no confidence in mosaic law and the flesh. Philippians 3:2.
Philippians 3:9 Following mosaic law is rubbish. Righteousness does not come from following mosaic law but through faith.
And Paul repeats these same themes in the whole letter people. Read this letter, it is only 31/2 pages long.
Colossians 2:14 Having canceled the written code, with it’s regulations, that was against us and stood opposed to us; he took it away, nailing it to the cross. And having disarmed the powers and authorities, he made a public spectacle of them, triumphing over them by the cross.
Mosaic laws and tithing depend on human tradition not Christ, Colossians 2:8.
Read the full letter of Colossians from Paul, it is only 31/2 pages long.
Now Read go to the four gospels and read them start to end. Christ was crucified by the followers of the mosaic law. In fact this is what all the disciples were all martyred over mostly. Mosaic law, tithing, is the Old Covenant.
All of Paul’s struggles were with a group called the Judaisers, messianic Christians. All the first Christians were messianic and they formed a group called the Judaisers. Their headquarters were in Jerusalem. This group was more against Paul then probably the Orthodox Jews. They believed the only way a gentile could get saved was to first learn all 613 mosaic laws, Regulations, Feasts, and circumcision rites and pass the required tests. then they could get saved.
Paul taught you are a hypocrite and cursed if you teach to follow only some of them. You see you cannot pick and choose which mosaic laws you are going to follow and which you are going to ignore. It doesn’t work that way. It is either all or grace, no in between.
Christ had a perfect opportunity to teach on the mosaic law of tithing right after scolding the followers of the law and pharisees, yet he didn’t [even] mention the word tithing. In fact the rich ones who tithed large amounts of money were not as godly as the widow who put in only a copper coin, Mark 12:41-44. So Christ taught the widow put more in from her poverty, yet curiously, he never mentioned more then 10% either. He only taught more then them because out of her poverty. Yet this was a prime time for Christ to teach the tithing mosaic law, but he didn’t.
Nobody tithes more then the Jehovah Witnesses and the Mormons which preach heavily on mosaic law. Many consider these cults. Truth does not come from following mosaic laws but becomes obscured and cloudy.
This is not from God and there is no scriptural support except a bunch of misled pastors trying to grow their congregations by heaping mosaic laws on peoples shoulders so they do not have to do their jobs and preach a sermon worthy of receiving donations.
When Christ sent the seventy how to witness door to door he told them to not bring a purse, no bedroll, no extra tunic or extra shoes, and no money. All preaching was to be done in faith.
Maybe when the church starts preaching this way again the corruption will end. It is hard though for all the people in the peanut gallery say “Praise the Lord” while the false prophets preach a false gospel based on man’s ideas instead of the scriptures.
Here are some of my comments on this sermon from my other blog:
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